Thinking of Trying Different Approach! - Page 2

mannydingo · 07-29-2010, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by randall d

You will experience a noticeable drop out when you switch patches, so you will need to find a good time to make the switch.

I thought the same with both my RP500 and when I used to own the RP1000. While using the RP500, I stopped hearing a dropout once I started leaving my foot on the footswitch after making the change. There was some kind of stumbling I was doing while playing and doing the "push down & lift" thing Now I push down, wait an additional second and then lift my foot off. In other words, I don't do it with that fear that I'm going to hear the dropout and therefore press & lift super fast. Do the exact opposite and take your time taking your foot off. You guys try it and tell me if it works just as well with the RP1000 since I never tried that back when I owned one.

artzeal · 07-29-2010, 10:52 PM

Once again; it comes down to working style and the situation at hand.

If you have multiple sounds in one song - in a performance situation - you're better off with a sequential layout of different patches - less chance of a mistake. (don't worry there will be other opportunities to goof up)

Turning FX on and off in a patch works best when the song calls for a core tone that's being modified or embellished; not radically changed around: Turning on and off a delay or OD between chorus and verse for example. Or having OD or some compression or tremolo available for a jam should the need arise.

The biggest advantage of using multiple patches on one song is you can change multiple parameters with one switch; lets say you're chugging along with a semi-clean rhythm tone with a little delay & a hint of chorus; its time for a lead break; chorus off, EQ - slight mid boost, less bass, hint of compression, changing the delay to 50ms and less reverb; that's just too much tap dancing and knob twiddling, when I need all my attention on playing.

WILDWILL · 07-30-2010, 08:14 AM

I've already done this before while in a live situation many times and never had a problem.
When I play live I have already done my homework, I know the song pretty well, know where the changes are and practice the changes on the song at home before playing it live so there is minimal chance of any goofs on my part. If the rp1000 has a drop out when switching patches I haven't noticed it at all, and I have done this before just going to do it more now is all. Fixin to buy an eq pedal for a clean boost and a Digitech Hardwire Tuner pedal to cure my 'ONLY" woes I have with my RP1000!

Thanks Guys,
WW

spknoevl · 07-30-2010, 08:27 AM

I have a set of basic "go-to" patches I always rely on: clean, dirty rythm, lead, gainier lead. Other than that, I'll have a few patches that are basically modified versions of those patches for specific tunes - things like an envelope filter or a Andy Summers/Edge clean sound with alot of delay and chorus.

Anything else I can do either with the volume control on the guitar or switching on a wah or univibe within an existing patch if needed.

One of the reasons I have separate lead patches is that I have stereo delay on my lead patches while my rythm patches are usually dry.

jonandtice · 07-30-2010, 12:22 PM

I play in church as well. I have a clean preset in pedalboard mode named CHURCH, with the amp loop on, that I use for all the songs. I have my AC30 (amp) to where it is almost breaking up with my guitar volume knob at 10 (with all pedals off).
I picked a Comp/OD/chorus/delay/reverb pedal that was a good compromise and using the pickups, volume and tone knobs on my guitar it works well with 90% of the songs we do (my songbook has about 100, not including hymns). This works well since for most songs I only have to turn one pedal on/off during the song. It does get a little annoying if I want to switch, say, chorus and delay on/off at the same time but so far it has been manageable. So far I haven't had to create multiple presets for one song. For songs that require a different tone from what my generic preset and pedals can give me I just create a preset specific to that song.

Joey_Sacks · 07-30-2010, 02:21 PM

I save everything in patches and run the RP1000 in preset mode. I cannot
get a decent sound using the OD sims compared to what I can get just using
amp sims exclusively. You definitely have to unthink how you get a certain
sound compared to the "conventional" way using amps and stomps.

That said, I will switch patches to lower gain, add delay, etc...just works
better FOR ME this way.

Joe

WILDWILL · 07-30-2010, 02:46 PM

Well I was speaking to a buddy of mine today and when I told him I was going on ebay to get a Boss GE-7 EQ he said he would sell me his for $40 bucks, said it still looks new so that really a cool deal for me. I will use it mainly for a solo boost and to tweak my sound just a little more precisely to sound even better than it does now. I'm PUMPED!!!!
Thanks for all the suggestions guys!

IT'S FREAKY FRIDAY!!!!!!!!!

WW

kjrocks · 07-30-2010, 03:04 PM

One bonus of the RP355 is the A/B switching. You can switch amps and cabs in the same patch or set up separate patches and have a ton of options in just a few patches.

WILDWILL · 08-10-2010, 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Joey_Sacks

I save everything in patches and run the RP1000 in preset mode. I cannot
get a decent sound using the OD sims compared to what I can get just using
amp sims exclusively. You definitely have to unthink how you get a certain
sound compared to the "conventional" way using amps and stomps.

That said, I will switch patches to lower gain, add delay, etc...just works
better FOR ME this way.

Joe

Yes the amp distortions usually are the better quality distiortions in every MFX I have used, RP100,GT-8,GT-10, and RP1000. Never fails, although there are some good distortion and OD sims in the RP1000 it just seems that I can easily get a fuller richer distortion sound with the amp models, and that's ok with me. The reason I prefer stompmode to preset mode is I like being able to turn on/off all my effects without having to change patches, just my preference as is your way. It's all good!

WW

WonderDude · 08-11-2010, 07:21 AM

Here's a cool trick you can try. It's how I keep from having to switch patches...

Set your stompbox footswitch (FS6 I believe) to control your amp's drive. I'm using the Matchless 30 I think. I normally run the drive at around 50. And then when I hit the footswitch it takes it up to 75. This is just enough to bring it over the top and not go crazy with the volume. Just give it a try and see what you think!